C6th ? just for interest.....

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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby Tony Smart » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:19 pm

With just one knee lever I would transfer pedal 7 to that lever.
Although it's not particularly relevant, I'm still using G as the 1st string and lowering the 2nd E to D on a lever.
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby mick hearn » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:36 am

Like you Tony I use a high G and not a D. With Jimmy Day setup he raises string 1 from G to G#. Sounds horrible in any combination for how I play so will remove that change. Can still get that D with pedal 7.

John D. If it's any help - Jimmy Day uses one lever and drops C to B.

Have been toying around with my version of Georgia on my Mind and there are some lovely chords appearing. May even put it on soundcloud over the weekend for a short spell. As usual I have not got a clue what chords I am playing. Never did know. Chord theory goes right over my head. I just find the dominant note I want the chord for and try it on different strings with different pedal/lever combinations until I find something that fits. Thats the way I always work.
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby Tony Russell Davis » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:41 pm

Mick - with a G on top, I use that high G-G# in several places. Here's one example: Misty (as a ballad).

...7..................]...................8..8..8..8-----7..................... ~
........7.............].........................................7................ ~
...7...........7L....]...............................................7.......... ~
........7.............]........7----8---------------------7....7..........7.... ~
...7..........7.......]...7..........................................7.......... ~
........7.............]...7---------8---------------------7....7..........7.... ~
......................].....slide up............................................ ~
...............7......]...............................................7......... ~
......................].....................................................7.... ~
......................].......................................................... ~

Sing the words to yourself "Look at me I'm as - help-less as a kit-ten up a tree . . . . . . . . . . ".etc.

I can't get the pedal/kl instructions to fit over the tab! So: kick in the C to B kl. on "me", and press peds. 5&6 as you slide up to fret 8. The harmonies below the melody (top) note are not set in stone, try the tune and see what feels best for you; you might find it easier to keep the same gaps at first.
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby JohnDavisStringsHere » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:15 am

I am glad the topic has created a bit of interest and discussion, my reasoning to raise that 3rd string to get another major chord is, once I have 3 chords below the 12th fret I can by running from one to the other gain entry to a neck that has mystified me for years, I know about half as much about chords etc. as Mr Hearne and it may be a simplistic approach but tis the only one I have :)
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby Tony Russell Davis » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:32 am

John, you use a D on top don't you? In that case having the 3rd raise gives you back the top G by moving up 3 frets (so, in key of G, based on fret 7, that would mean moving up to fret 10) kicking in the 3rd raise and picking from string 2 down you get the G chord with the G (the tonic; and I like G with tonic) on top.
But, trust me, you still need the 3rd lower too! 8-)
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby mick hearn » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:25 pm

Don't know much about your guitar John but do your cross shafts go right across the guitar? If so I would be looking at attaching a bellcrank and pull rod to one of your E9 levers. That way you could have a raise and a lower. Would not make much difference to the string on E9 as it's not being used, and when on E9 your C6 is not in use. Just a thought.
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby JohnDavisStringsHere » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:04 pm

Thanks for the replies, Mick I have got raise and lower on my Emmons of the 3rd string I also have a lever to lower the 4th But I have recently acquired a Pro 3 that only had the one lever on C6th , I have just added two more pulls by adding another teardrop and utilizing one of the E 9th levers now it has the same as the Emmons The Pro111 now needs a new home if anyone is interested it is a sweet guitar..
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby Tony Russell Davis » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:23 pm

The 4th string lower is something that B.Emmons used. I don't have that, but I do use the 4th raise to Bb (as opposed to the two pedals that raise it to B). Emmons had 4th string both raise and lower on KLs, I believe.
As I have 4KLs on C6th already, it looks like another vertical is on the way :twisted:
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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby JohnDavisStringsHere » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:01 am

Tony, get your tools out........

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Re: C6th ? just for interest.....

Postby Tony Russell Davis » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:58 am

OK John, I'm on it :mrgreen:
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