Inconsistent B pedal on all pull changer

Building, restoration, repairs, set-up, tweaking....in here!

Inconsistent B pedal on all pull changer

Postby henry » Sun Jan 11, 2015 3:55 pm

I have an all pull changer, if I press the B pedal down fast the resulting A note is slightly sharp of where is it when I press the pedal slowly.

I dont think this is a cabinet drop thing as if I press the pedal slowly but then press it hard while it's down the problem doesn't happen.

I dont really understand all pull changers, particularly the balancing springs and split springs, but could this be a result of incorrect spring tension somehow?
Marlen S10, Williams U12
Henry Senior - Pedal Steel Guitar
User avatar
henry
Seasoned Member
Seasoned Member
 
Posts: 479
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:52 pm
Location: Brixton, London
Real Name: Henry Senior

Re: Inconsistent B pedal on all pull changer

Postby JohnDavisStringsHere » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:09 pm

I think I would look at the Stop..... maybe when you pedal fast the stop is getting a bit more hammer than slow pedalling??
JohnDavisStringsHere
Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
 
Posts: 6203
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:19 pm
Location: St Neots
Real Name: John Davis

Re: Inconsistent B pedal on all pull changer

Postby henry » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:56 pm

I will do that.. cheers John!
Marlen S10, Williams U12
Henry Senior - Pedal Steel Guitar
User avatar
henry
Seasoned Member
Seasoned Member
 
Posts: 479
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:52 pm
Location: Brixton, London
Real Name: Henry Senior

Re: Inconsistent B pedal on all pull changer

Postby Nick Bidmade » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:22 pm

Hi Henry - if one (or both) of your G# strings are being affected by an over-tightening of the hex nuts, it could put extra pressure on the body of the guitar when you pedal fast- presumably pedalling fast can usually equate to pedalling 'heavy' - so I'd also slacken off the G# strings and check the raises aren't pulling things out of whack. a slow raise can usually be controlled better, with only sufficient foot pressure to achieve the slow raise...
Nick Bidmade
Seasoned Member
Seasoned Member
 
Posts: 775
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:40 pm

Re: Inconsistent B pedal on all pull changer

Postby Zebedee » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:57 pm

The slow raise could be the problem, if there is not quite enough tension on the return spring, or if the finger is in need of lubrication.

Press the pedal slowly, and watch the lowering segment of the finger (the bit with the return spring connected to it), and see if the segment moves away from its stop.

If it does, the lower return spring needs more tension
ZeBedee aka the spring man
User avatar
Zebedee
Seasoned Member
Seasoned Member
 
Posts: 420
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:23 pm
Location: Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Real Name: Richard Burton

Re: Inconsistent B pedal on all pull changer

Postby henry » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:14 pm

Thanks guys I will let you know how I get on (John, the stop seemed pretty solid..)
Marlen S10, Williams U12
Henry Senior - Pedal Steel Guitar
User avatar
henry
Seasoned Member
Seasoned Member
 
Posts: 479
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:52 pm
Location: Brixton, London
Real Name: Henry Senior


Return to Steel Guitar Technical

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest