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Re: My latest Aquisition.eye candy for plank`ist

Postby Ken Byng » Sat May 31, 2014 9:59 am

Isn't your middle neck tuned to C13 with that Bb Basil?
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Re: My latest Aquisition.eye candy for plank`ist

Postby Basil Henriques » Sat May 31, 2014 11:41 am

Yep Ken I was simplifying. But diligence is something I profess, so I should set an example instead of being made an example of :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: My latest Aquisition.eye candy for plank`ist

Postby Basil Henriques » Sat May 31, 2014 11:45 am

JD, just to show you what a gem and bargain you got, this is the current value of the TWIN neck one in average condition.
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Re: My latest Aquisition.eye candy for plank`ist

Postby Ken Byng » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:00 am

Basil Henriques wrote:Yep Ken I was simplifying. But diligence is something I profess, so I should set an example instead of being made an example of :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Sorry - wasn't trying to be a smart arse, but was just a little confused by the addition of that one string in the tuning that makes sense in a non pedal tuning. :D
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Re: My latest Aquisition.eye candy for plank`ist

Postby Basil Henriques » Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:22 am

Well Ken I really SHOULD be more careful about the nomenclature of tunings, BUT then again what about the E9th and the C6th, both of which have theoretically incorrect names ?
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Tuning are named by the chords they contain ! (You've already pointed that out :roll: :roll: )

I believe that E9(maj7) or E9/B, and F Maj 69 or F maj9+6 would be more correct ? :twisted: :twisted:

Well no ninth chord contains a major seventh, so obviously E9th is incorrect and if one goes down the "E9th Chromatic" road that's a VERY slippery slope, as Chromatic means:
chromatic |krəˈmatɪk|
adjective
1 Music relating to or using notes not belonging to the diatonic scale of the key in which a passage is written.
• (of a scale) ascending or descending by semitones.
• (of an instrument) able to play all the notes of the chromatic scale.
And we are missing so many of the chromatic notes within the tuning: F, G, Bb, C, C#,

And C6th is completely wrong as the bass end has an F in in the bottom two strings set the ilk for the following notes, and infer "F".... So logically based on the F, one would conclude that C, F, A, C, E, G, A, C, E and usually D....... gives us the notes of Fmaj, (Root, third and fifth) plus we have maj 6, maj 7, and maj 9 notes, the choice is either to base the name on the 6/9 or the Maj9, either way would be much more correct than C6, because there is absolutely no precedent for using the name C69 sus4, and a sus 4 on the bass is absolutely out of the window theoretically.
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Re: My latest Aquisition.eye candy for plank`ist

Postby Ken Byng » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:14 am

You are spot on as usual Basil. I have felt for donkey's years that both E and C tunings on pedal steel are misnomers. Many of our USA brothers refer to the tunings as the E or C neck when you talk to them, so for simplicity sake E9 and C6 is fine by me. We all know what is being referred to even if not technically correct. :)
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