Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Steel guitar tuition and instruction material

Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby JohnDavisStringsHere » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:32 am

What to do about them ? And the fear of playing them?? Well my answer is this! Play with Authority, let `em ring out!!
The world will not end nor the stage open up and swallow you.............. One day D.H will invent a bum not eliminator (a bit like a spell checker) and we will all play like Gods,but in the meantime some need a kick up the :censored: to get us going.... There was a young man at Davids steel meeting would have blown most of us away if he had more volume and attack (But he probably just needed a bigger amp ;) For those of you that this is aimed at, (and you know who you are ) I say that the only difference between your playing and the playing of the people you admire is confidence plus a little bit of ability and if you can develope an I don`t give a Rats Ars :censored: attitude , confidence will grow at an alaming rate!!
So, Turn up the steel !! :) and if this offends anyone :P
This post is not intended for those that have learned to play properly , and who understand music etc,but for plonkers like me who have to hear the note to tell if its right or wrong.


:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:
JohnDavisStringsHere
Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
 
Posts: 6191
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:19 pm
Location: St Neots
Real Name: John Davis

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby Donny Johnston » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:56 pm

I have a phrase for that John, " CONFIDENTLY WRONG " in other words, if your going to get it wrong you may as well be confident about it, then keep sliding until you hit the right note. Are you sure you're not a Sotsman ?
Blanton D10, Justice s10, Fender Acoustasonic 150, 1 Brain, 2 Hands, 2 Knees, & 2 Feet.
Donny Johnston
Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
 
Posts: 2260
Joined: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:35 pm
Real Name: Donny Johnston

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby Uncle Roy » Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:11 pm

JD, I am very confident as I play bum note most of the time , so it has become quite natural for me :lol: I do keep sliding Donny but very rarely find the right note. I need a band who plays the same as me. :oops:
User avatar
Uncle Roy
Moderator
Moderator
 
Posts: 2785
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:59 pm

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby JohnDavisStringsHere » Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:11 pm

Now come on guys this is a serious discussion......... Donny, not sure about "confidently wrong" as I am not always sure how the notes gonna sound.... but either way if your there your gonna hear it... and I ain`t gonna worry if its a clanker cos the next two or three might come out better ? (Possibly) ....
Uncle Roy, my suggestion to you would be try to balance a breeze block on top of the foot that controls the volume pedal ... this will create the illusion of confidence ..... If it works, you know where to send the cheque >>>


:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:
JohnDavisStringsHere
Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
 
Posts: 6191
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:19 pm
Location: St Neots
Real Name: John Davis

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby Jason Lynch » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:27 pm

words to inspire, JD. nice one. I think the bum notes Make you stop, just for a second. and that makes them stand out all the more. I think it's worth remembering that the audience don't know you didn't do it intentionally. Perhaps Donny's "keep sliding" is not such a bad idea after all. I agree confidence is half the battle.
Jason Lynch
 

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby Zebedee » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:05 pm

You have to be confident, trepidation is immediately apparent when playing steel, so keep that volume pedal wide open, and pick the strings with authority, I've played thousands of bum notes, none of them quietly, I just laugh them off :D
ZeBedee aka the spring man
User avatar
Zebedee
Seasoned Member
Seasoned Member
 
Posts: 420
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:23 pm
Location: Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Real Name: Richard Burton

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby JohnDavisStringsHere » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:12 am

I am grateful for the little bit of support I have had on this topic and from respected players :D Way to go!!
Heres an example of what I am talking about some warts & all playing on a little one take vid of my little Bud that I did for a guy thats coming to see it next week....... Did I play Bum notes? Hell yes! , Did I even lose my way in the track? Hell Yes!! But in between the doodah and the watsit there is at least four or five bars that sound quite respectable..... this was achieved with a "Don`t give a Rats Ar :censored: attitude..........
I am not saying put the bum notes in on purpose, if you can do it without them great, but lose your fear of them, its a road to progress >>>



:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:
JohnDavisStringsHere
Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
 
Posts: 6191
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:19 pm
Location: St Neots
Real Name: John Davis

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby bob adams » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:35 am

I think a lot of bum notes are born out of lack of concentration, we sit down at the steel but so many other issues of the day run through our mind and suddenly our head and our fingers are not coordinated, not trying to be a psychologist here, just a thought and I know I am very conscious of it, also because we have several choices of where we can play the tune on the board we are indecisive and therefore running almost behind the melody rather than in front of it.

There were no bum notes on your clip John until you were 75% through it when suddenly you were thinking S**t I’ll miss the post if I don’t hurry up here (true or false?? I know you Mr!) Then it's the ooops! moment! I think we are all guilty of it.

Regarding our failings and I guess more on technique than carelessness, all my days playing steel I have tended to lift the bar, my sound is not horrendous but it is a habit I would like to lose. I am always impressed when even 'fast picking’ the Whites and Franklins etc have the bar stuck like glue, it amazes me sometimes.

Right now I have my pedal into the patch side of the amp and the guitar straight to the high input, never done that before! (for once I read the manual and it’s not even a leap year!!) anyway it means that there is still volume even when the pedal is backed right off so it is creating it’s own discipline as you can imagine! Sorry now we are on yet another topic, pedal control. My only pet hate and a knuckle rapper with new players is the ‘pedal organ’ foot technique! That just as to go! …….

Did you get me started there JD, Goodness! And I’ve got things to do too! ............There you go! ...... I’m back where I started! :lol:
User avatar
bob adams
Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
 
Posts: 1721
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:48 pm

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby derek evans 15 » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:03 pm

I HAD A FEAR WHEN I STARTED TO PLAY PEDAL STEEL OF HITTING BAD NOTES .BUT WAS TAUGHT BY THE LIKES OF BRUCE BOUTON ,AND DAVE HARTLEY ( DVD,S ) AND THEY SAID PRACTICE THINGS SLOWLY AND YOUR PLAYING WILL IMPROVE.I STILL MAKE BLOOMERS I MIGHT ADD ,BUT I DON,T FEEL IT SO MUCH . I DO GIGS NOW AND AGAIN ,AND I AM CHUFFED WHEN GUITAR PLAYERS ASK HOW THE HECK DO YOU DO THAT.I LOVE THE PEDAL STEEL, AND I AM PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BRITISH STEELIES. REGARDS EVERY ONE. DEREK.
derek evans 15
Seasoned Member
Seasoned Member
 
Posts: 324
Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:35 pm
Location: hartlepool
Real Name: derek william evans

Re: Bum Notes and the fear >>>>>

Postby Will C » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:35 pm

I know this fear has held me back for years, always terrified of getting it wrong. Recently I've started cranking the amp up and I love the sound, it gives me more confidence. Now I've started to use the VP as well I just hafta learn not to "pump" it! :lol:
St Ives, Cambridgeshire
User avatar
Will C
Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
 
Posts: 1080
Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:43 am
Location: Ramsey, Cambs
Real Name: Will Cowell

Next

Return to Steel Guitar Tuition

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest