I don't need a thing at all!

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I don't need a thing at all!

Postby bob adams » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:48 am

Fresh upload! Great song, none better than the man Mr GW !

Strangely thin sound on the pick up of that G2 almost Fender like?!?

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Postby GuitarMathew » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:19 am

Very nice song indeed, pretty strange that it's sounding like a Fender but great playing anyway haaa 8-)
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Re: I don't need a thing at all!

Postby Ken Byng » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:00 am

That's the epitome of steel guitar tone that I don't like. Some Mullen G2 guitars sound pretty good, while others have absolutely no body or lower mids in the timbre whatsoever. It's the luck of the draw I guess. I spoke to Del Mullen at the Dallas show nearly 2 years ago, and he said that Mullen had cracked the elusive Emmons push pull sound from an all-pull conundrum with the G2. I think not. The tone of the G2 on the Gene Watson clip sounds extremely metallic, and not sweet like Mikey Johnson's red push pull when he plays with GW.

Little wonder that Buck Reid sent his G2 back to Mullen and is back playing his JCH.
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Postby Johan Forsman » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:38 am

That's thin alright, but how can we tell just by listening to the video that it is the guitar that's at "fault"? Could be the pickup, what the guy is playing through,no? I think it sounds crisp, but too thin, agree on that. You guys are so much more experienced than me, so maybe there is something that tells you IT IS in fact the guitar?

I have a Mullen Discovery which I have understood many things is very similar to the G2 in sound and feel, mine is not thin sounding at all. Could be that I was lucky and drew a good one.
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Re: I don't need a thing at all!

Postby Ken Byng » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:34 pm

Johan Forsman wrote:.........what the guy is playing through,no? ...........


Sounds like he is playing through a tiny transistor radio. Can't be the recording. The guy playing lead guitar has a great tone. :roll:
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Re: I don't need a thing at all!

Postby Donny Johnston » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:41 pm

Don't want to start a stooshie but I loved that sound, it was clear, crisp and sweet, and very well played, anyone know who the steelie was?
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Re: I don't need a thing at all!

Postby Johan Forsman » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:05 pm

Ken Byng wrote:
Johan Forsman wrote:.........what the guy is playing through,no? ...........


Sounds like he is playing through a tiny transistor radio. Can't be the recording. The guy playing lead guitar has a great tone. :roll:


Exactly my point Ken, so then it isn't the guitar but what he is playing through :) but on a serious note, just because the recording sounds great (Gene's voice is great) doesn't mean the steel players amp couldn't be what makes him thin. Or is he not using an amp you think?

I too Donny like the crispness, but could do with a bit broader spectrum though, it is a thin line between crips and thin.
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Postby dessa » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:57 pm

That’s Danny Naccarato. Biggest regret not taking the job with Gene many years ago :cry:
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Re: I don't need a thing at all!

Postby hickenjr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:17 pm

Ken Byng wrote:That's the epitome of steel guitar tone that I don't like. Some Mullen G2 guitars sound pretty good, while others have absolutely no body or lower mids in the timbre whatsoever. It's the luck of the draw I guess. I spoke to Del Mullen at the Dallas show nearly 2 years ago, and he said that Mullen had cracked the elusive Emmons push pull sound from an all-pull conundrum with the G2. I think not. The tone of the G2 on the Gene Watson clip sounds extremely metallic, and not sweet like Mikey Johnson's red push pull when he plays with GW.

Little wonder that Buck Reid sent his G2 back to Mullen and is back playing his JCH.


I don't like to criticize anyone or anything but I agree Ken. I'm really not keen on that sound. I've seen a lot of people bigging up models of guitars such as this, and writing other ones off unfairly. Nice playing though, just the sound that I don't like.
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Re: I don't need a thing at all!

Postby Ken Byng » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:51 pm

For my money Gene Watson was and is one of the greatest country singers ever. His voice hasn't deteriorated one bit with age.

That is a heck of a gig to turn down Derek.

Donny - I agree 100% that it would be boring if we all had the same tone. I love the tone produced by Mike Johnson, Tommy White and Steve Palousek. Big and full bodied, especially on the lower strings. Too much treble offends my ears, but they are old now and not as acute as they were. Tom Brumley's tone changed as he got older, and he had a mellower and less bright tone as he got older. Even through his Mullen.
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