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Modulation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:51 pm
by Zumbilly(Murdoch)
A simple modulation from the key of C to the key of D is to play the A chord (the V of the new key) then the D
We are to back a female singer soon and She wants to do "Cheatin Heart "then "Take thes Chains" as part of a medly.
The first song is in the key of C and the second is in the key of G#.In My opinion, an odd change,I am hoping it is a misprint
In using the simpe modulation playing the D# to move to G# it sounds crap.
Wimmen are funny people(another subject perhaps)
There must be a chord sequence somewher which will give us a melodic modulation.
Anyone with ideas?
Billy

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:17 pm
by STEDDIE EDDIE
you could actually try going from C to a 2 beat bar of Eb sus4, then a two beat bar of Eb, perhaps only steel playing that, while the band stops? then into your G# or as i always call it Ab :guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:17 pm
by Tony Smart
Try this Billy,

C (8th Fret)
A#m (9th Fret -B's to C# pedal)
D# (11th Fret)
G# (11th Fret - A&B pedals (Emmons))

This progression (II minor, V and Root, of the new key) is used quite a bit for awkward key changes in music in general.

Best of Luck
Tony

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:20 pm
by Zebedee
Play the last chord C (will make me BLUE), then one strum on Eb, one strum on Bb, one strum on C#, and then start the verse to the second song on G#

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:46 pm
by STEDDIE EDDIE
hey Billy, good thread, got us thinking, and also considering alternatives, which work, i personally still prefer my simplistic approach,with a stop apart from steel, we dont want to confuse our singers now, do we? i think billy, you should offer a substantial cash prize to which ever one you adopt, plus a genorous runners up prize, keep em coming guys,

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:31 am
by Zumbilly(Murdoch)
Absolutely brilliant Gents,Thanks very much.
I will try them all out
Now,the singer wants to try rainy day woman!!! Mooney made easy anyone?

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:32 pm
by IanPearce
The last note sung in the final bar of "your cheatin heart" is C and the first note in "Take these chains" is also C (although it may be an octave higher).
If the singer can hold that note in her head You may only need a bar of Eb 7/6 or as I call it "Eb7 with a C on top" as an intro to the new song.

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:05 pm
by STEDDIE EDDIE
your quite right Ian, that would certainly work, BUT! i would not trust that many singers to pull that off, remember they are not musicians in the main, hard enough to get them to sing in time, never mind pitch a key change from C to Ab, its not the band im worried about, can you tell I HATE SINGERS? i have no doubt Billy will pull off whichever of the above he chooses,

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:25 pm
by IanPearce
Hi Steddie, I know what you mean about most singers. They are a race apart. (That's not racist is it?)
By the way, I still haven't got the hang of this internet thingy. My reply should have been aimed at Zumbilly.

Re: Modulation

PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:39 pm
by Zumbilly(Murdoch)
Ian,
Thanks for replying
I am used to being aimed at :)
You'll have noticed that in all the movies I am always first to get shot. They always give the order to "Fire at Will" Boom Boom.
Anyway guys I have probably made up My mind on which recommendation to use and so as not to disappoint anyone I have alredy sent a gift to the winner by pay pal. :lol: If You believe that....Well. :roll:
Thanks again
Billy