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Re: Just for fun

Postby STEDDIE EDDIE » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:53 am

have to agree, it has to be mr hartley by a mile, and then some, how could this FACT be contradicted? how could such an awesome player be loathed? not a huge fan of C6, but must also commend Mark Dunn, and also a certain mr Richard Nelson here in Ireland,
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Re: Just for fun

Postby bob adams » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:40 am

All players have favs and foibles, the 'love or loath' remark is a mere turn of phrase! :)
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Re: Just for fun

Postby Basil Henriques » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:17 am

I'm not so sure Bob, there are some that I really do loath and would gladly cut off their hands, purely as a service to those of us who like things in tune.. Fortunately none of the aforementioned are in this category in fact they all set a standard and yardstick we all should aspire to.
Professional etiquette prevents me from naming those I loath, well not so much loathe but just consider detrimental to the instrument's furtherance, propagation and dissemination of it's uniqueness and musicalities ..

:lol: :lol: :lol: Of course ye know I jest somewhat...
:roll: :roll: :roll:

The title of this thread is :- ?
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Re: Just for fun

Postby Basil Henriques » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:28 am

Back to the OP's question, I'd ring Jerry Byrd and ask him why on earth he didn't expand his instrument base to include the pedal steel. He was a master of the resonator and lap steel, as his recordings with Hank Williams and Marty Robbins testify. I just wonder what benefits he could have brought to the pedal steel world.

He was a master of double tracked harmonies AND use of the volume (Swell) pedal.

I know for one thing, he could have taught those that don't know, just how to slant (Back and Forward, split and normal) without moving the forearm. He showed us all that it came from the wrist and fingers ONLY.
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Re: Just for fun

Postby bob adams » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:11 am

This reply comes from the hip rather than the wrist but it is just my slant! ;)

Loath, Loathe or Boath! I doubt players of ambiguous tuning are detrimental to the instrument, I would suggest they require sympathy, and who knows they perhaps encourage those not quite at the pinnacle of their PSG career to strive for 'the true note on a ‘I can do better than that basis!’ Yes they don’t quite accurately flatten their E’s but hey they may just encourage the rest of us to do just that! A positive result perhaps??!
Anyway none of that related to my remark it was one of personalities! Not playing perfection!

Now there is one of your cans of worms! And a whole new topic! (And I may just start it!)
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Re: Just for fun

Postby Basil Henriques » Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:21 am

I doubt players of ambiguous tuning are detrimental to the instrument

Well you haven't attended an Aloha Dream event...Pat does a roaring trade in razor blades, (for the wrists of those listeners who can't take any more)
There are players who get the prize for "Bet you can't Guess the Tune", those who are world champions at missing an odd beat/bar hither and thither, and those who (at 80 years of age) have JUST started to learn, but are finding the hearing aid overloads with an an amp any stronger than a Micro-Cube..
You can always recognise where our conventions are, the carpark is equally divided betwixt car spaces and Zimmer frame "hitchin' posts"...

I was just jesting and waffling as is my 'wont'.. It's late and I'm lonely..

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Re: Just for fun

Postby Zumbilly(Murdoch) » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:56 am

Well Folks,as I said at the beginning of this post that I would call The Late John Hughey.
I did call John last night and He said that He would call Buddy Emmons.
The telephone exchange tells Me that the calls to British players has been disappointing.None for Sarah,Gerry Hogan,Derek Thurlby,Dave Kirk,Ken Byng
Gordon Huntly,Barry Gaskell and several others.These players are at the top of the Brit list.
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Re: Just for fun

Postby Basil Henriques » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:01 pm

Zumbilly(Murdoch) wrote:Let's imagine You have a majic telephone and You can make one ten minute call to any pedal steel player (alive or deceased)Who would You call.?

The GOOD living players 'phones are mostly engaged taking bookings, the deceased ones are now on Skype giving lessons..except for the few who went "Down Below" and they're having a "Devil of a Time"

In all seriousness (As if I could be !!) Sol Hoopii, Benny 'Feet' Rodgers, Eddie Bush, Andy Iona, Sam Koki, Barney Isaacs Jr. Jeff Newman, Jerry Byrd, Joachim Murphy and Jules ah See... one minute each..or maybe a ten minute 'Conference Call'.. they would be my choice.. The living can be still seen live, that's why I plumbed for the ones long gone.
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Re: Just for fun

Postby Uncle Roy » Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:48 pm

Baz, I am a little surprised that a player of your ability passes remarks on a forum about how other steelies play. I am sure a lot of us would dearly love your experience and knowledge of our instrument. We all live and hopefully learn but may never reach your standard but should that be open for ridicule? :shock:
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Re: Just for fun

Postby Jason Lynch » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:15 pm

I'm suprised, and A little ashamed, that niether I, nor any of us, have mentioned our very own John Davis? I've had the privelage of a few hours of his time, loads of tips, help and all for nowt! who else do we know gives so much to the steel community as him? JD, I salute you. You the man!
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