Building, restoration, repairs, set-up, tweaking....in here!
Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:50 am
Yes, I know these guitars are not highly regarded, but that's all I've got and I have to start somewhere. I rather like the fake walnut vinyl covering!
Any info I've found online describes it having 3 pedals and 1 knee lever - so how come i've got 2 pedals and 2 levers?
This leaves me struggling with ant tablature I've found, as it's all set up the other way.
does anyone know of any tab or instructional material for my weird set-up?
Thanks in advance,
Jim
Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:42 am
Difficult to advise without knowing your set up, but if your pedals are the standard A&B, and your levers are E raise & lower that's all
Jeff Newman's Up From The Top parts 1,2 & 3 use.
Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:56 am
You need some help with that one Jim,where are you located??
Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:11 pm
Thanks for these responses.
I presume Allan, that you are recommending the Jeff Newman course? Shall give it a go if so.
John - I'm up the top end of Derbyshire, so not so convenient for St Neots!
Shall have a go at mastering tuning this thing first off, then report back on what I can work out about this pedal/knee set-up, if anything!
Have been playing C6 lap steel for about a year, so not starting completely from scratch. so far have learnt that there's plenty I've got to learn, in terms of music theory and the practicalities of applying it to the 10 strings in front of me.
many thanks,
Jim
Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:40 pm
Jim
When I was starting out. I used 'Up From The Top' Part 1, which uses only A&B pedals, cannot comment on parts 2&3. I found part 1 a useful course that kept me working for many months. Still use licks based on the scales it taught to this day. If your pedals are standard A&B it would be worth considering. Downside is it is rather expensive, but most other tuition like Dewitt Scott's tend to assume a basic 3 pedal + 3 lever set-up. Reckon you need to understand what your 2+2 set-up does before you can move on.
Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:24 pm
Thanks Allan,
maybe I should invest in part 1 at least then, thanks.
Spent most of the afternoon getting my head around tuning.
cheers!
Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:00 pm
perhaps you could post your set up (copedent) here, so someone can advise you further? also, why not try the Member Map, and see if somebody is near you for instruction?
I would think, witha fairly limited setup, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade sooner rather than later, funds permitting. There's usually one or two instruments in the For sale section.
Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:07 am
Post a picture of the underside of the steel, so we can work out the copedent.
Without knowing the setup, it's difficult to offer advice
Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:50 pm
Is this clear enough to see what's going on?
Much appreciated,
Jim
Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:46 pm
OK, it's standard E9 setup (Emmons, not Day), minus the 'C' pedal.
The 'A' pedal (nearest the headstock end) raises strings 5 and 10 a tone, the 'B' pedal raises 3 and 6 a semi tone, the left knee right (LKR) lever lowers 4 and 8 a semitone, and the RKR lowers strings 2 and 7, probably a semitone.
To tune a string that raises, (say the 5th string) press and hold the 'A' pedal and tune the string up to its raised pitch at the keyhead.
Release the pedal and tune the string to its open pitch using the tuning screw at the changer end of the steel.
To tune a string that lowers, tune it to its open pitch at the keyhead, then activate and hold the knee lever and tune the string to its lowered pitch using the endplate tuning screw.
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