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Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Richjevons » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:15 pm

Hi everyone, my Name’s Rich.
I’ve been a professional touring guitarist for about 15 years. Owned a Carter Starter years ago but didn’t quite take to it.

When the pandemic hit last year I started doing some work as a landscape gardener and badly injured my index finger on my left hand. My Dad very kindly suggested he bought a pedal steel and I could be practicing that whilst I was out of action playing 6 string.

Im now hooked!

I have a question regarding re stringing a Sierra with Gearless tuners, I’m finding it very hard to pull the string tight enough to get the string up to pitch as there isn’t enough thread on the tuners I’ve managed every string but the top G# and can’t help feel like I’m being thick on a way to do it?
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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Mr Bassman » Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:52 pm

Welcome to the forum Rich.
Maybe you should ask that question in the technical section.
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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Danny Mitchell » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:17 am

Hello Rich,
So, you're hooked! Join the club!
There's a section about stringing in this manual, hope it might help.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1quG_KfF-NRwJoIVBTI68213fg5NgdDG8/view?usp=drivesdk

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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Danny Mitchell » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:18 am

Oops! I've just noticed, you'll have to request for access, no biggie, just a wee pfaphff :oops:
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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Tony Russell Davis » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:33 am

Hi Rich - just had to do a Facebook search to see which version of the Sierra keyless tuners you have; it's the same as mine with the brass hex nuts. Once you have fully slackened-off the tuner nut, push and hold the string puller back against the roller nut. You can use pliers to heave the string through the hole and round the clamping screw the same way as it tightens. Pull it very tight and try to have it cross over, or as near as possible crossed, and tighten down the screw. That should hold it fine. Then snip off the excess string. The high strings need most travel so really pull those.
Sierra recommend using a dowel rod with a hole in it to haul the strings. The string goes through the hole and wraps round the dowel. Here's the diagram, figures 17 and 18.
http://sierrasteels.com/support_documentation/sierramanual.pdf
And here's my tuners.
Sierra tuners.jpg

I guess that should cover it? Let me know if I can help further :guitar:
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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Richjevons » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:18 pm

Thanks everyone.
And thank you Tony for taking the time to do that, that is basically what I did for all of them but did come short on the top G # so maybe I need to pull harder.
I wondered if there was a better way as the brass hex screws seemed about twice the height as they were before I restrung it.
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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Tony Russell Davis » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:54 am

Rich, don't worry about the brass nuts being high, it's when they're all the way down that you have big problems - because you've reached the end of the travel with nowhere to go.
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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Richjevons » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:13 am

Sorry Tony, that’s my poor typing ( English ) using my phone. I meant they were twice the height before I read strung it. They’re fairly low now but fine on all strings apart from the 3rd where there’s not enough travel.
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Re: Hello and a question on restringing Gearless tuners.

Postby Tony Russell Davis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:47 am

Yeah, those are the problematic ones, look at mine - the first three are way down and the third is almost out of travel. They need a really good heave and to keep the tension until the screw is tight, one lapse and you run out of options :cry:
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