Sho Bud S10

[Uncle Roy]

For sale Sho-Bud S10, beautiful condition for age. 3 floor 4 knee levers..all teardrop style.
Pickup rewired in 2010 by D Wiggins.
Day set up,
6139 series. Serial number 9902
Probably built 1972ish.
Case in superb condition.
Asking price £1100.00


CONTACT: BOB ON 01179542266 OR EMAIL : [email protected]
Pictures to follow

[Uncle Roy]

For some odd reason I cannot get theses photo posted here today.
Please email me for pics on [email protected]
I well send them on to you.

[Ken Byng]

Pics of Bob Dixon's Sho~Bud.

[Uncle Roy]

Still available at the moment.

[jonshack]

I'm no expert but I've just been researching manufacture dates for this era Sho~Bud, this serial is just four guitars after the one listed here http://www.donblood.net/sho-bud-serial-numbers-and-build-dates.html as being built on Christmas eve 1975, so it would be the same day or whenever they got back from their holiday I guess. A few years later than stated then, I think '72 would be a round front with barrel tuners, but still a great guitar and a real bargain. I just bought an LDG from a couple of weeks later, Jan 76, and as here you have a lot of the early features, large body, gumby keyhead, wide pedals, no pot metal underneath but with the more modern nylon tuners. I'm still trying to find out if these changers are pot metal if anyone knows...? I have it on good authority that they are not but I think they did start around this time.

Anyway hope that info helps someone. Great deal!
Jonathan

[Ken Byng]

Jonathan
The photos that I published above can be zoomed into. The pic of the undercarriage reveals that it is not constructed with pot metal parts. The lever brackets are not the flimsy type that snap with even light pressure. This is a quality guitar that is being sold at a competitive price, and the condition of the case would indicate that the guitar probably hasn't been gigged.

[jonshack]

Exactly Ken, I hope I made it clear in my post that although the guitar is later than stated in the ad, it is NOT pot metal underneath. First time buyers might not be able to identify these things from the pictures which is why the date of manufacture, not 1972, is important to get right (late '75 = post barrel tuners era, pre Super Pro era). I think I'm right in saying there is a grey area over the changer fingers on mid 70's Sho~Buds – some are chromed pot metal, some are aluminium. To be clear, even if this has pot metal fingers, so long as they are in good nick, it's a really good price for such a classic guitar.
Jonathan

[Ken Byng]

Sorry Jonathan. I should have worded my previous response thus;

From what I have heard and read, David Jackson started using parts that were stamped out on a special machine using zinc metal in order to get more of a 'production line' manufacturing process. It was a case of getting supply to match demand at competitive prices. It is highly probable that a guitar with non pot metal or non-zinc parts underneath would also have non pot metal changer parts. It was a massive faux pas on behalf of the Jackson family to cut corners in such a way, but they could never have predicted the fragility of the use of pot metal. Or could they?

I tried to get David to talk about his motives behind the use of zinc in the Sho~Buds of the era when I was talking to him last year. He was reluctant to get into dialogue about it, but his late buddy Bobbe Seymour was less reticent to discuss it one time with me at his store.

Even if a person were to buy one of the dreaded 'Buds from the pot metal period, its not the end of the world. There are a number of sources where replacement lever brackets can be purchased from. Jeff Surratt, Michael Yahl, James Morehead and others have them 'on the shelf'. I would hazard a guess that the parts could be knocked out quickly by the Dave Wiggins' and Ronnie Bennett's of the world. Provided that such a guitar was bought at the right price, it could still be brought up to spec where it would last for many more years without any real problems.

[Tony Smart]

Pot metal is a term that isn't used in this Country. The components are known as Die Cast. (just something that winds me up - not having a go at anyone) There are various alloys used for this as well as different systems of casting.
The mains reason for failure of the Sho-Bud bits is that as with most die casting they tend to use the absolute minimum of material to save money. If they can scoop out an aperture somewhere or design it with as many hollows as possible, then it's a saving.
There's a good chance that if they were to have cast all those parts as solid, there would have been far less trouble, especially if they used an alloy with a high aluminium content.
Sho-Bud obviously preferred pastry. Someone should have told them the old saying, "don’t spoil the ship for a ha’porth of tar"

Of course not being in the know, there might have been another reason for doing this.

[JohnDavisStringsHere]

This little beauty has again come home to me ...if memory serves I think this is the one that Ron fitted two more levers on for me, it shows the quality of his work when you cannot tell the old parts from the New....