Any secret note pockets?
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:33 am
Hi All
Ive been practicing a lot recently using B pedal on its own or with my 7 string half raise, played 2 frets above either the no pedals or AB positions. I’m finding it a very useful ‘pocket’ to play in and it occurs to me that perhaps there’s other wee gems that I haven’t found yet. The last good one was when I found the dropped E’s position 2 below that makes C a first fret chord rather than AB on 3. And then there’s the ‘move anything up 3’ to make it minor thing that helps shrink the neck. Does anyone have a favourite wee place on the fretboard out of the ordinary?
Cheers
Calum
Ive been practicing a lot recently using B pedal on its own or with my 7 string half raise, played 2 frets above either the no pedals or AB positions. I’m finding it a very useful ‘pocket’ to play in and it occurs to me that perhaps there’s other wee gems that I haven’t found yet. The last good one was when I found the dropped E’s position 2 below that makes C a first fret chord rather than AB on 3. And then there’s the ‘move anything up 3’ to make it minor thing that helps shrink the neck. Does anyone have a favourite wee place on the fretboard out of the ordinary?
Cheers
Calum
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:33 pm
Aren't you playing 12 rather than 10?
'Scuse my ignerrance (!), but don't that make it all different?
I love the sound of 9,8,6: 9,8,6 (B pedal in: then lower 9 (D to C#). Sounds very 'hymnal'. But you 12 'ers don't lower the 9th (as I understand it...).
We could be speaking a different language.
'Scuse my ignerrance (!), but don't that make it all different?
I love the sound of 9,8,6: 9,8,6 (B pedal in: then lower 9 (D to C#). Sounds very 'hymnal'. But you 12 'ers don't lower the 9th (as I understand it...).
We could be speaking a different language.
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:07 pm
Hi Nick
Thanks for getting on board. I am indeed playing 12 but extE9 rather than Uni so I’m in the same boat as all the rest of you ‘normal’ players except I have a particularly ‘deep pocket’ on strings 11 and 12 that I can keep my wallet in! Will have a wee look at your options when Ive ‘had my tea’......
Cheers
Calum
Thanks for getting on board. I am indeed playing 12 but extE9 rather than Uni so I’m in the same boat as all the rest of you ‘normal’ players except I have a particularly ‘deep pocket’ on strings 11 and 12 that I can keep my wallet in! Will have a wee look at your options when Ive ‘had my tea’......
Cheers
Calum
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:41 am
hi again Nick
I like your change and it is indeed very hymnal. I don't use the lower on 9 nearly enough so will try and incorporate it. My 9 is mainly for my feel stop on 7 and 2. Though one 'Brucie Bonus' that came out of your change is that my 7 full raise that kicks in with the 9 lower gives me a maj 7th. However, I realised that its not perfectly in tune so upside down again to add another split tuning rod! Don't you love this instrument.....
Cheers
Calum
I like your change and it is indeed very hymnal. I don't use the lower on 9 nearly enough so will try and incorporate it. My 9 is mainly for my feel stop on 7 and 2. Though one 'Brucie Bonus' that came out of your change is that my 7 full raise that kicks in with the 9 lower gives me a maj 7th. However, I realised that its not perfectly in tune so upside down again to add another split tuning rod! Don't you love this instrument.....
Cheers
Calum
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:35 pm
Oh no, Calum!!!!!
Your 7 Full raise is my 6 full lower +b pedal makes a lovely b7th chord...
Yer takes the money and takes yer choice...
I did get a 'half=pedal' on my E lowers, where string 4 would lower before string 8 began to lower., making the (temporary) incursion into Gymnopidaes.. but I re-tuned, and now I have no idea how I did it.
You seem to have Erik Satie sorted - except for the heavy boots and damage to the MSA corporate representation...
Keep stompin'
Your 7 Full raise is my 6 full lower +b pedal makes a lovely b7th chord...
Yer takes the money and takes yer choice...
I did get a 'half=pedal' on my E lowers, where string 4 would lower before string 8 began to lower., making the (temporary) incursion into Gymnopidaes.. but I re-tuned, and now I have no idea how I did it.
You seem to have Erik Satie sorted - except for the heavy boots and damage to the MSA corporate representation...
Keep stompin'
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:05 pm
Hi Nick
No choice required on that one as I have the 6 lower as well and that’s on my RKL. It’s also got a feel stop for the half drop and I use that exclusively instead of the B plus knee ( which also works just in case).
Now the idea of the E’s going at different speeds is going to mess with my brain for a couple of days! Hadn’t thought of that. Genius!
Cheers
Calum
No choice required on that one as I have the 6 lower as well and that’s on my RKL. It’s also got a feel stop for the half drop and I use that exclusively instead of the B plus knee ( which also works just in case).
Now the idea of the E’s going at different speeds is going to mess with my brain for a couple of days! Hadn’t thought of that. Genius!
Cheers
Calum
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:40 pm
You understand that you two will drive yourselves mad. 
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:34 am
Thank you for that positive contribution Lord Donald! It will bring some comfort when I’m in the asylum. Now, while you’re there, get that new steel of yours out and donate a wee collection of notes to the topic being discussed! 
Cheers
Calum
Cheers
Calum
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:46 pm
So, can anyone tell me how I did it - and more importantly, how I can do it again? (Staggered E lowers. String 4 hits Eb before string 8 starts to lower. Lever fully engaged gives the usual Eb on both strings.)
Re: Any secret note pockets?
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:57 pm
Hi nick
I'm guessing you just set the lower stop on 4 so that it can't go past Eb. Then 8 just keeps on going assuming you have enough of a pull set up and its set to kick in after 4 hits the target. If you don't have a lower end stop, then an extra raise pull on 4 that kicks in to stop it dropping past Eb. One day, this will all be software......
Cheers
Calum
I'm guessing you just set the lower stop on 4 so that it can't go past Eb. Then 8 just keeps on going assuming you have enough of a pull set up and its set to kick in after 4 hits the target. If you don't have a lower end stop, then an extra raise pull on 4 that kicks in to stop it dropping past Eb. One day, this will all be software......
Cheers
Calum