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Different Copedants

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:33 am
by Countrypicker
I was working through a tab sheet supplied by Richard Burton for “Crazy” via the SteelGuitarForum. The problem I had was that Richard has a different copedant to me in that he can lower his 9th D string by a semitone and my instrument levers do not allow me to do that. Could any of the members suggest what they normally do when reading Tab sheets that have a different copedant to the one written and how they get over this problem?
Thanks

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:52 pm
by Countrypicker
As a fairly new member who is also fairly new to the PSG I must say that I was disappointed that nobody offered any advice to my question.

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:31 pm
by JohnDavisStringsHere
Hi, Sorry you did not get an immediate response, sometimes it gets quiet on here and sometimes you need to elbow your way in! you must have picked a quiet time to post.......
Re. your question if its a semitone your after a bar slant may work..... I have never read a "tab" in my life and do not understand them but half the fun of our wonderful instrument is that there is nearly always another way to do things and looking for the alternative way is part of the deal.... If you get a rough idea of the toon from the tab then go look for alternate ways to play it otherwise you will end up being a "stiff" copy of the guy that wrote the tab.....


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Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:01 pm
by slimbo
I stand with John on this one, use the old noggin my friend and hunt around for the note you want, or sometimes a chord will do a better job, don't be a carbon copy, if you have to look for what you want, you'll remember it for next time, this is what makes the steel an adventurous instrument, it's all in there somewhere, and sometimes you'll get a pleasent suprise when you find it.

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:58 pm
by Nick Bidmade
Sorry - only just seen this. I have this problem too - what I find useful is to use my tuner to identify the notes in the particular chord (even by moving the bar around to compensate for the raises or lowers that my guitar doesn't have) and then seeing if I can find those notes within the copedent on my own guitar. I also find those same notes on a six-string guitar (which I am much more familiar with) - sometimes the notes suggest a chord that can then be substituted on the steel, even if it's not quite what the author intended. As others have said, this is one of the things that make psg such a fantastic instrument.

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:08 am
by Zebedee
Sorry Countrypicker, I've only just noticed this post.

If you are referring to where I pick strings 9, 8, and 6, then press the B pedal and activate the lever that lowers the 9th string, you can get the same notes by moving down two frets, and pick strings 8, 7, and 5 (as long as you can lower string 5 a semitone).

Start with lowering string 5 a semitone, then pick 8 7 5, then let string 5 raise back to its open position, then lower string 8 with its knee lever.

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:07 am
by Jason Lynch
Richard, Would the A pedal on string 10 not give you the same note?

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:04 am
by James Crowbear
lowering string 9 a half tone from D to C# at fret O
you get the same note on string 10 w: pedal A B to C#
as long as you can identify & hear the note you want, you're almost there
finding an alternative is the fun part
counting on one's self is better than having someone cut the meat in your plate

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:05 pm
by Jason Lynch
Crowbear, You have a way with words! Brilliant.
keep it up, Countrypicker!

Re: Different Copedants

PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 11:43 am
by Countrypicker
Just would like to say thanks to everyone that posted an answer to my question. Thanks guys.