E9th 10 string question

[bob adams]

May seem like a daft question but just interested.

Standard Emmons setup on E9th does anybody raise the 9th string??

[hickenjr]

I do on my Pedabro

[Uncle Roy]

Hi Bob,
I lower my 9 string on my Mullen, right knee, right.lever.

[bob adams]

Just wondered out of interest.Thanks guys.

Yes I have the standard Emmons lower change on my 9th Roy and use it a a lot as Willie will testify. Essential for many of course to give the feel stop change on the 2nd.

Stumbled across this in truth so have put a 9th raise rod on my C pedal which gives me a sweet alternative to the 4 & 5 chord change rather than using the usual B pedal and E lower or AB two frets up..

I'll stick a brief video up and let you judge. It's not a change you would flog to death but it is a real sweet C6th sounding alternative in a few places that you all may like.

[bradsteel]

Hi Bob, I think Gary Carter has that change. Looks like he uses it at the beginning (the second note) of that beautiful ascend at 2:06

[bradsteel]

And you know what they say about great minds!

[bradsteel]

Although he must have it on a lever somewhere..

[hickenjr]

I don't think on that passage he uses a 9th string raise but I could be wrong. I slowed it down to half speed and he strikes 10,9,8 but the blocking is really precise and at full speed you can miss the blocking, creating an illusion of a bend.

It all depends on what note you are raising the 9th string to for how it's useful. I know somebody who raises it a semi tone to a major 7. I have a different use for it which is to give me back something I lose with the PF 8th string pull on C pedal, although the lick at the end of this instrumental is something I've also found by having the change.



And 3:52 of this.



Although, just be wary of adding it to your guitars. I'm unsure of any possible 9th string chords you will lose by having this on a pedal/lever that could create direct conflicts. I did ask Paul Franklin about this but he didn't really give me a full answer of what I could lose. I did try and keep this little change a secret until I got it on a famous Britpop record but looks like the cat is out of the bag...

[bradsteel]

Hi mate he does strike 10, 9, 8, but the note he’s playing on the 9th is an F# so I think he has the 9 string raise engaged. So not a bend as such, but that it’s probably already engaged at the very beginning of the run (or straight after string 10 is struck of course).

[bradsteel]

I’ve found this on the US forum - looks like he has the raise on LKR. Quite an interesting copedent all round actually! https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtop ... 7a64e582ed