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FFS what next ?

Postby Basil Henriques » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:56 am

So how many of you out there call Bb (B Flat) A# (A Sharp) ?
these "wallies" seem to think it's correct.:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0536968846

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I always understood key designations to be universally accepted as:-
C - Db or C# - D - Eb - F - F# - G - Ab - A - Bb - B - C
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Steelies do it without fretting
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Re: FFS what next ?

Postby Basil Henriques » Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:12 am

If you'd have clicked the link you would have seen that it's a designated An E9th ChordBoard..... We are talking about CHORDS and KEYS not notes..
So surely the CONVENTIONAL naming of keys should apply.. Who ever heard of A#m or D#7 ?

And If the A# is used because of the tuning and its scalic relationship, then explain just why it's also called A# on this C6 CHORDCHART by the same company..?

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The author of those ChordBoards is Rick Kornacker as USA Steel Guitar Forum Member.
I've sent him an E-Mail, I'm interested to see what he has to say about the naming of the chords unconventionally.
I must admit that D#m G#m and A#m seem out of line with present teaching, likewise with some of the straight major nomenclature, and the sevenths.
Not the norm, and in my opinion not the path to start students upon.
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Re: FFS what next ?

Postby Zebedee » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:25 am

It looks like the confusion with the D and E levers is going to be perpetuated.

The majority of players designate the lever that drops the 4th and 8th strings as the 'E' lever, not 'D'.
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Re: FFS what next ?

Postby Will C » Thu May 03, 2012 12:47 pm

The trouble is, Richard, that we have to bear the history in mind. First there was only the "F" lever to raise the E's. The "E" lever (RKR) came next, I'm told, and that flattens the second string. So when we came to flatten the E's we had to call it the "D" lever. That's certainly the nomenclature that Carter Steels used - my first steel was a Carter Starter, so I picked this up.

I think what's important is to explain the lever name so as to avoid confusion, whatever convention we use. I do that on my tab sheets, along the top row under the song title.
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